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I wrote a about a few tips in my main dice setting guide but I will go though a few more that I did not mention and explain in further detail on how to get better at controlling the dice. Much of this advice will be helpful to get you into a good state of mind when going to the casino and to become more confident in your skills once you have already learned the basics.

The Bubble Craps machines are not really electronic. They use real dice, albeit larger than those on the traditional craps tables. So technically the odds of rolling any number at any time are the same. I don't know about CET as I don't play there. But I can tell you that a number of casinos do not allow you to accrue points using these machines. Amongst advantage-play techniques, there is one called dice control, which some believe is the perfect way to beat craps. Dice control works on a simple system. An expert holds the dice in a specific way and tosses it in the belief that he/she can control the roll. In carps, a controlled shooter is mostly looking to avoid throwing 7s.

The first thing you will notice when you place craps is the social environment which involves lots of noise, excitement and also distractions. This is one thing that novice players need to get used to. Even intermediate and advanced players can get caught up and lose concentration of their dice throwing abilities. So the first tip and word of advice is to start off by wagering the minimum table limit bet until you get warmed up enough.

A few things to look for when you are warming up are to see how far the dice bounce after hitting the opposite padded wall. If they are really bouncy, this is bad. If they do not bounce as much, then the dice and table are good to stay at. Sometimes casinos change the padding or the clothed felt on the table and this can alter the way the dice get thrown. The more they bounce around, the less control you have. Once you find a good table, it is best to stick with that table and keep going there whenever you play at the casino.

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One thing to watch for is when the dealer changes the dice. The dice eventually get worn down and need to be replaced with ones with sharp edges and corners as well as crisp faces. Typically the dice will be changed at the end of a shift. It turns out that these fresh dice are great for dice setting and you can get more control because they have a good grip and have a good reaction when they hit the table or wall. They even work better when players try to use the backspin technique. So it is a good tip to join and throw the dice when they are fresh.

Now for a few tips regarding the social aspects of the game. Typically, players will side up with the shooter and bet for them to win. These players are known as 'right' players since they bet with the shooter on the pass line and come bar. So naturally, these players are going to be cheering on the shooter (the person throwing the dice) for them to win.

So if you are a 'wrong' player, you would be better on the don't pass and don't come bets, which are against the shooter. Many times you will also be betting against everyone else there too. Honestly though, the don't pass line bet is better than the pass line bet in terms of house edge and mathematical probabilities, so it is up to you if you want to give into peer pressure or follow the best odds. Eventually, you may get people to walk away from the table which will speed up the game. This is beneficial for dice setters since they get more chances at throwing the dice when there are fewer people around.

The best advantage to a dice setter is to be in control of the dice as much as possible. That means being the shooter and throwing many rolls per hour. In order to do this, it would be best to play on a table with fewer people so that you get your turn at the dice more often. There are some advantages to playing on a table that is crowded though. This is because there are possibly other shooters who know how to control the dice as well and you can make some more money wagering on them. Still, you will want to make sure they have good skills or those equal or better to your own.

Another thing to be cautious of is playing on a table with no other players except yourself. If you are alone, then you will be under the exclusive watchful eye of 4 dealers. This is one of the disadvantages of playing on an empty table. The advice is to bring a friend or a few friends with you or just play on a more crowded table. Otherwise you do not want to draw too much attention from the wrong people. If you move onto a new crowded table, bet with the shooter if you want to take your turn at the dice relatively quickly.

In case you were wondering, a typical craps table goes through about 50 to 100 rolls per hour and sometimes 150 if things are going fast. Most of the time is used when dealers have to collect and pay out the winnings. To speed things up, look for table that doesn't offer complicated bets or has fewer bets on the layout. Also, do not make odd sized prop bets. Make bets in whole numbers or even numbers like $10 or $20 instead of $5.50 or $17. This will make it easier for the dealers to pay out the bets and give you more throws per hour.

Tipping the dealer in craps is extremely good etiquette since these dealers have to do a lot of work compared to other casino games. If you tip the dealer, they will also go above and beyond for you as well. Some benefits that the stickman will do for you is align the dice and set them in your usual way before give you the dice. They may also offer other gaming advice such as if accidently made the wrong bet.

Tips and Advice for Precision Shooter Dice Setting

If you are a precision shooter, there are a few things you should pay attention to since these tips can greatly improve your dice control at a specific craps table. One of the first things you should look for is if there is any padding under the table felt. Believe it or not, thicker and softer padding is actually better than no padding at all. The soft padding will have the effects of 'grabbing' the dice and keeping them from moving too much, which is a major goal for precision dice control.

One way to check the padding is to listen to the dice. If they making a crackling noise like hitting wood or something hard, then this is bad padding. You can also test it by touching the table with your finger. Ideally, the dice should make almost no noise when they hit the table, which is a great indicator of soft padding.

The age of the felt itself is also a big factor in precision dice setting. Usually, the older the table, the better. This is because the older felt gets worn and tends to get the dice to stick on it. This is ideal for dice control because you want the dice to cease movement quickly in order to get better control of them. One thing to note is that the felt gets changed about once per year usually and it is good advice to wait about one or two months after new felt comes in if you want extra precision.

Believe it or not, even table lengths can be a factor. A normal craps table is about 12 feet long but some are 14 feet and others are even smaller. This is only a factor that depends on what table you like best. If you prefer the long table, go for it. Typically, dice setters can adapt to new tables as well. Now for some of the bets on the table, the free odds bet is one of the best in the house. Obviously my best tip is to wager the maximum allowed odds and this applies to both precision shooters and just regular craps players.

Normally, the rules of the game require that you throw the dice hard enough to hit the other end of the table. There are pyramid shaped bumps on the padding along the walls of the craps table. These bumps are to ensure even more randomness of the throw by altering the axis of your dice when they bounce off these surfaces. One way to counteract this effect is to learn how to put a backspin on the dice. When doing a backspin, you want the dice to make contact with the table before hitting these pyramids in order to counteract the forward momentum properly.

A problem might arise if you have a short height. The original craps table was designed for taller players and this can make it harder to lean over the table and throw the dice properly. This actually makes it harder for everyone to control the dice as well and this is not an uncommon problem. Don't hesitate to ask the casino for a block or step stool to stand on as a platform. Casinos are usually aware of this kind of problem and they have these platforms readily available upon request.

Following all of these tips will greatly improve your craps game and dice control skills. They will also make your experience much more enjoyable and less stressful as this awesome game should be anyways.


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Hexaplus
Question:
Has anyone had any luck or heard of such praticing dice control on the 'mystery of 50' bubble craps machines.
Background:
I am a novice to this world, I go to vegas once or twice a year with my wife and have a good time usually breaking about even. Generally I go to have fun and don't put much thought into advantage playing.
The last couple of times I've noticed and preferred the bubble craps machines to the tables mainly because I can play on the strip with low minimums. I have noticed (and seen others discussed) some abnormalities in the frequencies that come up. Further a few times I've been able to time the dice so that the showing roll will be the result. It is a rare opritu it's but occasionally it does happen.
Anyway your thoughts?
tupp
I've heard theories. I think that the action/response of the roll buttons varies somewhat.
By the way, it's actually 'history of 50' -- they flash a couple of sporadic stats about the last 50 rolls.
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Hexaplus
Ha yea o generally tune her out :)
Can you point to the theories you've seen my friend?
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FleaStiff
I would doubt there is an opportunity there, but please identify the machine(s) so that there is less confusion.
The only electronic craps I've played just kept rolling and rolling the dice inside a plastic bubble and there was no 'roll' button nor did I see any history display though I would have ignored it if I had.
tupp

... please identify the machine(s) so that there is less confusion.


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odiousgambit
Such machines might have the potential to 'remember' the last position of the dice. This possible pattern production would be something any casino would question, so the manufacturer must have been able to convince doubters.
One thing I am sure of is that players have tried to find a pattern. There are always some dumb-asses doing it, but also some sharp characters. I think by now some of the latter would have cracked it. Craps dice game
Any anecdotal-level observations you may make without tons of data are just going to mess with your head, worthless stuff. I suggest you give up trying to find patterns and just enjoy your play.
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder

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FinsRule
I'm a believer. We had a thread about this a while ago and I couldn't find it. Basically, my theory is that over time the results are fair, but there might be some correlation from one set of numbers to the next.
I would love to study it and make thousands, but I'm not because an AP play like this is not fair to the casinos that are just trying to provide me with some entertainment.
Hexaplus
The beauty is that thousands of samples can be made fairly cheaply: on a $1 machine if you play 24 hours straight you'll get 60 to 70 hours of play hours of play on a $50 dollar bankroll.
There is a big button that basically causes the dice to get jostled when you press it.
The game has been compared to no-whammies which is funny because no-whammies was in fact advantage-able.
Not fair? I don't want to cheat, just like an interesting problem. A couple extra bucks with out breaking any rules sounds okay too.
Beethoven9th

...because an AP play like this is not fair to the casinos that are just trying to provide me with some entertainment.


So is card counting 'not fair' either?

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Beethoven9th

if you play 24 hours straight you'll get 60 to 70 hours of play hours of play on a $50 dollar bankroll.


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You can play 60-70 hours in only 24 hours?? You're good.

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